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to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnerny says the business leaders want a balanced solution to short and long-term deficit issues. >>> and facebook is joining the nasdaq 100 index. it will be joining the index next wednesday and replaces tech firm emphasis who is moving to the new york stock exchange. >>> our guest host here to take on the financial cliff as well as false assumptions investors may be making about what the markets will do come january. joining us is dan greenhouse and chris walen, senior managing director. just looking through some of your comments, dan, you don't think we should go over, obviously. >> well, we were -- chris and i were joking in the green room. a lot of the policies in the cliff to us personally are anathema, but that's probably going to happen and what should happen. >> bring it on. >> you think -- >> look, subject americans to the minimum tax. >> yeah, they'll understand. >> the democrats want to raise taxes so they can spend more. they derive economic sustenance from spending. you've got to understand the d
putting out their pieces saying let's go over the fiscal cliff, let the president do this. then john cornyn, republican from texas, saying apparently the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. this is serious business, demanding higher taxes, more stimulus, no spending cuts and no plan to preserve and protect social security and medicare will not solve our fiscal crisis. it will make that crisis much worse. what is your response to cornyn's reaction? >> well, i would say to senator cornyn, where have you been? we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars. they're selfish. and there's a group called patriotic millionaires who are sayi
over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> we can debate at length whether the november 6th election was a mandate, but i don't think we can debate the basics that it was a work order, a work order from the american people to members of congress and to the president, roll up your sleeves, work together and solve the problems. we got the message. did speaker boehner get the message? because the message was work together. what we hear from him is all of his pain and frustration and angst dealing with the tea party in his own caucus. well, there comes a point when he needs to look beyond his caucus to the house and to the nation. >> all right. welcome back to "morning joe." >> i guess the more things change, the more they stay the same. it's depressing, you're right, harold, we've seen this movie before. this was a year ago. this happened a year ago. and i know the media says oh, it's the republicans' fault any time the house doesn't co
the fiscal cliff. consumer confidence has remind high. business confidence is down so the first thing we want to know, that's not the right chart, we want to do on whether or not people heard about the fiscal cliff. have you heard of it? comparing it to some of the other times people asked about news event, there's the trayvon martin shooting in the street, occupy wall street, 82%, facebook ipo 7 %, 70% of the republic has heard it compared to the fiscal crisis in greece, 63% had heard it. in that number 36% had read a lot about it or heard a lot about it. do they believe a solution is likely? our numbers different from other poles. americans are more optic. first of all see what they think, unlikely 73% back in november when we asked about the debt program would there be an agreement, 73% saying that, now 44%. the number you want to think is 4% to 44% thinks a solution is likely. who thinks it's likely, that's interesting and driving this number. he can break it down by party. look at what we find, republicans 52-42, independents, i come back here, there we go, independents 47-32 and it's re
're going to nienld out. it's rough. as we approach the fiscal cliff and harry reid's state has been slow. it's hit every industry in nevada and i mean every industry. >> how's business? >> it's been better. >> susan austin run as small business outside reno, nevada, but her business is different. it's a brothel. the legendary mustang ranch. >> this is one of our suites, the asian suite. austin thought the world's oldest profession would be recessionproof. not true. >> then went my high rollers. they discovered they didn't have the discretionary income and they couldn't play as hard as they used to. well that definitely dug into their wallets which definitely affected us. >> will the fiscal cliff impact the mustang ranch? >> well, if folks rub out of money and jobs, i suppose it could. >> gillman is a republican who is looking to nevada's powerful democrat harry reid to keep that from happening. >> do you like harry read? >> harry reid and i have been friends if 30r years and harry and i both share a vision and a love for the state of nevada. >> susan austin says even here the cliff will
've got a fiscal cliff now. we have the fiscal abyss next year. we need to say, don't come home. no deal, no break. members should be in washington at least five days a week like every other american and not leave until they deal with the fiscal cliff this year or until we get a grand bargain next year. they would pull off seven times more days -- >> david faber tweeted this morning that they should be locked in a room and forced to listen to the animal orchestra until they have a deal. >> david faber's hair. >> you put them in a room. you tell them they're going to sit there until the deal is done. day three, no more food. day five, no water. day seven, the waterboarding begins. that would get it done. >> and the president should be there, too. >> the president does work five days a week. >> but not in the same room. but he is home. he's already home. >> but listen, they spend too much time raising money. if they did a good job, they wouldn't have to raise as many money. if they got paid for performance, they wouldn't have any money. >> are you going to run for linda mcmahon's seat? >>
the recovery started. now, i'm not going to blame it all on the fiscal cliff. we have a slowing economy. we have slowing economies around the world. but i was at a dinner with a bunch of ceos in washington who are interested and care about this fiscal issue on monday night. and they were talking about we're not hiring. we're allowing attrition to happen. we're holding back on big spending. we want to see what happens here before we go forward. what's interesting about this is that the consumer seems to have a different view. the consumer -- for the consumer so far, this has sort of passed by. i wouldn't say blissful ignorance, but it has not affected their behavior. you had a fairly strong set of economic numbers this fall. the housing market seems to have finally turned up after a period of obviously deep decline. and so consumer confidence, which is one of our best proxies for this kind of thing, has been turning up and really does not yet -- the fiscal cliff does not yet seem to have penetrated their consciousness. for those of us who were in stores over the holiday weekend, stores are c
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